Comments on: Social Network Transitions http://fstutzman.com/2007/11/05/social-network-transitions/ Thoughts about information, social networks, and privacy Fri, 06 Jan 2012 21:54:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: fred http://fstutzman.com/2007/11/05/social-network-transitions/comment-page-1/#comment-1063 fred Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:38:00 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/~fred/projects/blog/?p=519#comment-1063 Thanks for the link - that was an interesting post. One thing I've learned from a few years of publishing is that ideas sort of exist in the ether...so I generally don't get worried if I see stuff similar to what I write elsewhere. I'm sure someone is reading my stuff and going "hey! i already wrote/thought that". ;) Thanks for the link – that was an interesting post. One thing I’ve learned from a few years of publishing is that ideas sort of exist in the ether…so I generally don’t get worried if I see stuff similar to what I write elsewhere. I’m sure someone is reading my stuff and going “hey! i already wrote/thought that”. ;)

]]> By: Anonymous http://fstutzman.com/2007/11/05/social-network-transitions/comment-page-1/#comment-1062 Anonymous Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:32:00 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/~fred/projects/blog/?p=519#comment-1062 Hi Fred <br/><br/>Seems like some of your ideas were exported for this article: what do you think?<br/><br/>http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2007/dec/30/apple.google?gusrc=rss&feed=technology Hi Fred

Seems like some of your ideas were exported for this article: what do you think?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2007/dec/30/apple.google?gusrc=rss&feed=technology

]]> By: Ignatia eLearns through the web http://fstutzman.com/2007/11/05/social-network-transitions/comment-page-1/#comment-1040 Ignatia eLearns through the web Wed, 05 Dec 2007 11:30:00 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/~fred/projects/blog/?p=519#comment-1040 The thing I thought about while reading this post, was what about trust, where does this fit in the equation? Going to think about that... The thing I thought about while reading this post, was what about trust, where does this fit in the equation? Going to think about that…

]]> By: Murray http://fstutzman.com/2007/11/05/social-network-transitions/comment-page-1/#comment-1006 Murray Thu, 08 Nov 2007 03:53:00 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/~fred/projects/blog/?p=519#comment-1006 Great Post,<br/><br/>But I have noticed that as soon as the techcrunch community starts jumping on some bandwagon the Facebook guys leap onto it and implement it. They have so many resources and they are so fast that as soon as they realise that they need an object focus they will start developing it left, right and centre. Great Post,

But I have noticed that as soon as the techcrunch community starts jumping on some bandwagon the Facebook guys leap onto it and implement it. They have so many resources and they are so fast that as soon as they realise that they need an object focus they will start developing it left, right and centre.

]]> By: Brenda Chawner http://fstutzman.com/2007/11/05/social-network-transitions/comment-page-1/#comment-1003 Brenda Chawner Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:57:00 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/~fred/projects/blog/?p=519#comment-1003 There is a very interesting knitters' community growing up at Ravelry (http://www.ravelry.com/). It's still in beta, with access 'by invitation' (but people can register to join the waiting queue). I've noticed a decrease in people blogging about their knitting because everyone who gets into Ravely immediately starts spending time there.<br/><br/>In some ways it's a combination of ego-centric and object-centric networks. I can see what specific individuals are doing, but I can also see who has made a particular pattern or owns a particular book. There are already hundreds of Ravelry groups for knitter who share a knitting (or non-knitting) interest/characteristic (knitters who love ghost stories, anyone?) Right now there are 861 Ravelers online, and over 10,000 members.<br/><br/>If you want to look into it more, you'll need to find a knitter who has already joined. There is a very interesting knitters’ community growing up at Ravelry (http://www.ravelry.com/). It’s still in beta, with access ‘by invitation’ (but people can register to join the waiting queue). I’ve noticed a decrease in people blogging about their knitting because everyone who gets into Ravely immediately starts spending time there.

In some ways it’s a combination of ego-centric and object-centric networks. I can see what specific individuals are doing, but I can also see who has made a particular pattern or owns a particular book. There are already hundreds of Ravelry groups for knitter who share a knitting (or non-knitting) interest/characteristic (knitters who love ghost stories, anyone?) Right now there are 861 Ravelers online, and over 10,000 members.

If you want to look into it more, you’ll need to find a knitter who has already joined.

]]> By: fred http://fstutzman.com/2007/11/05/social-network-transitions/comment-page-1/#comment-995 fred Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:31:00 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/~fred/projects/blog/?p=519#comment-995 Xavier, that is a difficult question, and I step around it by finding experiential differences. Of course, the boundaries are not fixed, and in a multiplex, multimode network such as Facebook there's a mix of object and ego. The form is ultimately fungible but we may find that the experience trumps. Xavier, that is a difficult question, and I step around it by finding experiential differences. Of course, the boundaries are not fixed, and in a multiplex, multimode network such as Facebook there’s a mix of object and ego. The form is ultimately fungible but we may find that the experience trumps.

]]> By: Xavier Vespa http://fstutzman.com/2007/11/05/social-network-transitions/comment-page-1/#comment-993 Xavier Vespa Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:21:00 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/~fred/projects/blog/?p=519#comment-993 That's a really good thought. All psychological phenomenon imply a subject (I is a subject), an object (others can be objects) and a situation (or environment).<br/><br/>Therefore, I don't know where to put the line between egocentric and objectcentric: What is so different between writing in a person's wall and watching a person's video? That’s a really good thought. All psychological phenomenon imply a subject (I is a subject), an object (others can be objects) and a situation (or environment).

Therefore, I don’t know where to put the line between egocentric and objectcentric: What is so different between writing in a person’s wall and watching a person’s video?

]]> By: Tola http://fstutzman.com/2007/11/05/social-network-transitions/comment-page-1/#comment-990 Tola Wed, 07 Nov 2007 05:48:00 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/~fred/projects/blog/?p=519#comment-990 I'm digging this post as well. I like the ego and object-centric breakdown a lot. We've been developing an app that leans toward the object-centric network side of things...where the user profile is not the center of the universe. I'm really interested in the revenue models of either type of network. I think it will continue to be difficult to monetize the ego-centric network - like walking into a highschool cafeteria and trying to hand out pepsi t-shirts to seniors. On the other hand, I think there are more opportunities to monetize object-centric networks. I don't get the sense that this has been an area that has been as deeply explored yet. I could be wrong. I’m digging this post as well. I like the ego and object-centric breakdown a lot. We’ve been developing an app that leans toward the object-centric network side of things…where the user profile is not the center of the universe. I’m really interested in the revenue models of either type of network. I think it will continue to be difficult to monetize the ego-centric network – like walking into a highschool cafeteria and trying to hand out pepsi t-shirts to seniors. On the other hand, I think there are more opportunities to monetize object-centric networks. I don’t get the sense that this has been an area that has been as deeply explored yet. I could be wrong.

]]> By: fred http://fstutzman.com/2007/11/05/social-network-transitions/comment-page-1/#comment-989 fred Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:14:00 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/~fred/projects/blog/?p=519#comment-989 Jeff, Facebook Pages don't really change anything in my opinion. Facebook is and wil continue to be an ego-centric network. Jeff, Facebook Pages don’t really change anything in my opinion. Facebook is and wil continue to be an ego-centric network.

]]> By: jeff http://fstutzman.com/2007/11/05/social-network-transitions/comment-page-1/#comment-988 jeff Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:11:00 +0000 http://127.0.0.1/~fred/projects/blog/?p=519#comment-988 hey fred,<br/><br/>this is a really great post. now that facebook has launched facebook pages, we have both an ego-centric and an object-centric social network in one place.<br/><br/>how would the new facebook fit in your analysis? hey fred,

this is a really great post. now that facebook has launched facebook pages, we have both an ego-centric and an object-centric social network in one place.

how would the new facebook fit in your analysis?

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