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	<title>Comments on: Imagined Identity: Envisioning the Future of Social Networks</title>
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	<description>Thoughts about information, social networks, and privacy</description>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
		<link>http://fstutzman.com/2008/05/27/imagined-identity-envisioning-the-future-of-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-1294</link>
		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly - the core value of &quot;remix culture&quot; seems to be creating third spaces.  Trebor Scholz and other critics would argue, and I would agree, that these third spaces advance capitalistic agendas - vendors are certainly interested in leveraging api&#039;s and streams and repurposing them into their own places.  And in many contexts, those can be a value-add.  For example, we&#039;d much rather follow our Facebook friends via Newsfeed than browse everyone&#039;s profile every day.  Same thing with my Flickr contact network, and so on.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My personal argument is against the automaticitiy of the spaces.  Whereas a curated space emphasizes the select content of a curator, the firehose approach is technological - it lacks the human intervention and editing process that allows selective presentation.  All of this, obviously, can be controlled in software, and if FriendFeed does catch on I assume norms will emerge, but I don&#039;t see  a solution yet.  Nor do I see anything innovating or particularly time-saving about the approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly &#8211; the core value of &#8220;remix culture&#8221; seems to be creating third spaces.  Trebor Scholz and other critics would argue, and I would agree, that these third spaces advance capitalistic agendas &#8211; vendors are certainly interested in leveraging api&#8217;s and streams and repurposing them into their own places.  And in many contexts, those can be a value-add.  For example, we&#8217;d much rather follow our Facebook friends via Newsfeed than browse everyone&#8217;s profile every day.  Same thing with my Flickr contact network, and so on.</p>
<p>My personal argument is against the automaticitiy of the spaces.  Whereas a curated space emphasizes the select content of a curator, the firehose approach is technological &#8211; it lacks the human intervention and editing process that allows selective presentation.  All of this, obviously, can be controlled in software, and if FriendFeed does catch on I assume norms will emerge, but I don&#8217;t see  a solution yet.  Nor do I see anything innovating or particularly time-saving about the approach.</p>
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		<title>By: Factory Joe</title>
		<link>http://fstutzman.com/2008/05/27/imagined-identity-envisioning-the-future-of-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-1293</link>
		<dc:creator>Factory Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a point of clarification -- why aren&#039;t social objects in FriendFeed simply recontextualized in a stream of &quot;actions&quot; that your friends have taken? I agree, and originally opposed, the commenting-out-of-context aspect of FriendFeed, but now appreciate it considerably, like going to an art museum and commenting out loud, in the context of others, and having people I don&#039;t know respond to whatever I say...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Isn&#039;t that also somewhat valid? To create &quot;third&quot; contexts for these social objects?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a point of clarification &#8212; why aren&#8217;t social objects in FriendFeed simply recontextualized in a stream of &#8220;actions&#8221; that your friends have taken? I agree, and originally opposed, the commenting-out-of-context aspect of FriendFeed, but now appreciate it considerably, like going to an art museum and commenting out loud, in the context of others, and having people I don&#8217;t know respond to whatever I say&#8230;</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that also somewhat valid? To create &#8220;third&#8221; contexts for these social objects?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Mum</title>
		<link>http://fstutzman.com/2008/05/27/imagined-identity-envisioning-the-future-of-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-1286</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Mum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Numerically I have a very small sphere of influence myself. The usual family and friends and a few like-mindeds. But they are spread out all over the world.&lt;br/&gt;I am about to become a grey nomad myself and I imagine social net- working will become essential to me rather than just necessary. &lt;br/&gt;For &quot;on the hoof&quot; interconnectivity one has to have an encyclopedic knowledge of all the layers of systems and its bloody complex.&lt;br/&gt;What I am trying to say is organic growth is hidebound by technical complexity, not by human behaviour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Numerically I have a very small sphere of influence myself. The usual family and friends and a few like-mindeds. But they are spread out all over the world.<br />I am about to become a grey nomad myself and I imagine social net- working will become essential to me rather than just necessary. <br />For &#8220;on the hoof&#8221; interconnectivity one has to have an encyclopedic knowledge of all the layers of systems and its bloody complex.<br />What I am trying to say is organic growth is hidebound by technical complexity, not by human behaviour.</p>
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		<title>By: Bertil Hatt</title>
		<link>http://fstutzman.com/2008/05/27/imagined-identity-envisioning-the-future-of-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-1261</link>
		<dc:creator>Bertil Hatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 14:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As always, thank you for the labeling: it comes handy for a discussion we are having right now -- precisely to figure out how a Mobile network could work.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There are tons of things that could be implemented (thanks to geo-loc, mostly) in a MoSoNet, but Twitter or the mobile end of Facebook seem convincing to me. I really beleive that efficient, mature social networks demand complex personal structures, and need a large screen for settings -- hence the success of two ideas that are not purely mobile.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I was surprised to see how few Twitter accounts are private, probably meaning most people use it as a micro-bloging platform rather then an &quot;close&quot; network. I sincerly beleive that with a less intrusive end then SMS, a Twitter-like app can be a great socail app.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, thank you for the labeling: it comes handy for a discussion we are having right now &#8212; precisely to figure out how a Mobile network could work.</p>
<p>There are tons of things that could be implemented (thanks to geo-loc, mostly) in a MoSoNet, but Twitter or the mobile end of Facebook seem convincing to me. I really beleive that efficient, mature social networks demand complex personal structures, and need a large screen for settings &#8212; hence the success of two ideas that are not purely mobile.</p>
<p>I was surprised to see how few Twitter accounts are private, probably meaning most people use it as a micro-bloging platform rather then an &#8220;close&#8221; network. I sincerly beleive that with a less intrusive end then SMS, a Twitter-like app can be a great socail app.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://fstutzman.com/2008/05/27/imagined-identity-envisioning-the-future-of-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-1260</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are now thousands of social networks that cater to a whole variety of subjects. These smaller, focused sites allow users to connect with like-minded people and give advertisers targeted demographics. Niche social networks are also good for marketers who have a product or service they want to promote that relates to a particular interest. A good place to find such sites is a search engine that caters specifically to social networks such as http://findasocialnetwork.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are now thousands of social networks that cater to a whole variety of subjects. These smaller, focused sites allow users to connect with like-minded people and give advertisers targeted demographics. Niche social networks are also good for marketers who have a product or service they want to promote that relates to a particular interest. A good place to find such sites is a search engine that caters specifically to social networks such as <a href="http://findasocialnetwork.com" rel="nofollow">http://findasocialnetwork.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Henriette Weber Andersen</title>
		<link>http://fstutzman.com/2008/05/27/imagined-identity-envisioning-the-future-of-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-1259</link>
		<dc:creator>Henriette Weber Andersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 20:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that social networks need to have both in order to scale. Both the local and the global. But the local is the most important to me as well - as well as the social objects present</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that social networks need to have both in order to scale. Both the local and the global. But the local is the most important to me as well &#8211; as well as the social objects present</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
		<link>http://fstutzman.com/2008/05/27/imagined-identity-envisioning-the-future-of-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-1258</link>
		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That&#039;s a perfect illustration of what I&#039;m talking about.  The idea that your network is comprised of people you know, who are close - and knowing that your online production is supplementing your relationships with them.  It is very powerful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a perfect illustration of what I&#8217;m talking about.  The idea that your network is comprised of people you know, who are close &#8211; and knowing that your online production is supplementing your relationships with them.  It is very powerful.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://fstutzman.com/2008/05/27/imagined-identity-envisioning-the-future-of-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-1257</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure if this is what you are thinking in terms of &quot;closeness&quot; but Twitter to me has been a revelation in being local. Organically the majority of folks I am communicating with on Twitter live within a 20 mile radius of me... or have some connection to that area. Further, my connectivity to my local area has grown because of this. I know I&#039;ve mentioned this to you before - but it still surprises me as no other participation in online communities has accomplished that for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if this is what you are thinking in terms of &#8220;closeness&#8221; but Twitter to me has been a revelation in being local. Organically the majority of folks I am communicating with on Twitter live within a 20 mile radius of me&#8230; or have some connection to that area. Further, my connectivity to my local area has grown because of this. I know I&#8217;ve mentioned this to you before &#8211; but it still surprises me as no other participation in online communities has accomplished that for me.</p>
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