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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://fstutzman.com/2008/07/03/youtubes-privacy-catastrophe/comment-page-1/#comment-1289</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just ran across your name in a yahoo article named &quot;&#039;Public&#039; online spaces don&#039;t carry speech, rights&quot;.  Unfortunately, I feel this article may pertain to the deletions of thousands of my comments on YouTube.  Sometime nearly a year ago, I decided to post comments and become an online activist supporting greater freedoms, autonomy, an end to abuses of Tibetans within Tibet, and reform of Communist Party of China (CCP) policy in Tibet.  I spent many hours each day posting comments on YouTube videos that were about Tibet.  For some reason specific users focused in on me and replied for many more hours, showing particular disdain when I posted news quotes about mistreatment of Tibetans.  Mysteriously, one day, all of my comments were deleted- even from videos that had nothing to do with Tibet.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This occurred again a few months later around December, when after graduating from my University, I spent even longer posting on YouTube.  I emailed YouTube security, fearing a hacking attack (shortly afterward, I got the bright idea of getting anti-virus/anti hacking trialware- showing attacks).  I got no reply.  I even went so far as getting someone online, who had YouTube&#039;s phone number and fax number, to call and fax them on my behalf. I did the same; both of us failed to make any contact or receive any replies.  A few months earlier I had successfully contacted a lady by email who worked for YouTube&#039;s advertisement department regarding advertisement fees for NGO&#039;s.  She returned my email, however, when I contacted her a few months later regarding the deletions of my posts she did not return my email.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I was never told that I was doing anything wrong, nor did I believe that I did.  I quoted my news sources and when I gave my opinions, I was respectful even towards those who were hostile towards me.  YouTube never warned me of any violations, nor did they delete my account.  You can even see that people are replying to the &#039;mysterious&#039; Dem, Dementia, etc... on the video entitled &#039;Tibet-Story of a Tragedy&#039;.  My user name was dementia664 (named after my ex-girlfriends pet cat and a parody of 664- the neighbor of the beast).  I put in many hours posting comments.  I have gotten no explanation and my comments were never re-posted as I had requested.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The prevailing opinion of an online contact from Japan was that Google used software that was specifically created for China to delete controversial information that originated within China, however mine did not.  I believe that it is possible that Google or YouTube was contacted by CCP or some Chinese nationalists and decided an individuals free speech (ironically they claim to represent free speech) wasn&#039;t worth a loss of income or greater restrictions on what could be posted on YouTube.  (It is also possible, that a google or YouTube employee who was sympathetic to Chinese nationalism and/or Anti-Tibetan autonomy/rights may have deleted the comments.)  I however, believe that it is the individuals, collectively, who can make a difference in the Tibetan cause, and, ironically, whose free speech YouTube claims to want to protect. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Is there anyway that you can assist me in getting an explanation from YouTube regarding this matter, and possibly even getting the comments re-posted?  If you can not directly assist me, can you offer advice or other people who may be able to assist me with this matter?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just ran across your name in a yahoo article named &#8220;&#8216;Public&#8217; online spaces don&#8217;t carry speech, rights&#8221;.  Unfortunately, I feel this article may pertain to the deletions of thousands of my comments on YouTube.  Sometime nearly a year ago, I decided to post comments and become an online activist supporting greater freedoms, autonomy, an end to abuses of Tibetans within Tibet, and reform of Communist Party of China (CCP) policy in Tibet.  I spent many hours each day posting comments on YouTube videos that were about Tibet.  For some reason specific users focused in on me and replied for many more hours, showing particular disdain when I posted news quotes about mistreatment of Tibetans.  Mysteriously, one day, all of my comments were deleted- even from videos that had nothing to do with Tibet.  </p>
<p>This occurred again a few months later around December, when after graduating from my University, I spent even longer posting on YouTube.  I emailed YouTube security, fearing a hacking attack (shortly afterward, I got the bright idea of getting anti-virus/anti hacking trialware- showing attacks).  I got no reply.  I even went so far as getting someone online, who had YouTube&#8217;s phone number and fax number, to call and fax them on my behalf. I did the same; both of us failed to make any contact or receive any replies.  A few months earlier I had successfully contacted a lady by email who worked for YouTube&#8217;s advertisement department regarding advertisement fees for NGO&#8217;s.  She returned my email, however, when I contacted her a few months later regarding the deletions of my posts she did not return my email.</p>
<p>I was never told that I was doing anything wrong, nor did I believe that I did.  I quoted my news sources and when I gave my opinions, I was respectful even towards those who were hostile towards me.  YouTube never warned me of any violations, nor did they delete my account.  You can even see that people are replying to the &#8216;mysterious&#8217; Dem, Dementia, etc&#8230; on the video entitled &#8216;Tibet-Story of a Tragedy&#8217;.  My user name was dementia664 (named after my ex-girlfriends pet cat and a parody of 664- the neighbor of the beast).  I put in many hours posting comments.  I have gotten no explanation and my comments were never re-posted as I had requested.  </p>
<p>The prevailing opinion of an online contact from Japan was that Google used software that was specifically created for China to delete controversial information that originated within China, however mine did not.  I believe that it is possible that Google or YouTube was contacted by CCP or some Chinese nationalists and decided an individuals free speech (ironically they claim to represent free speech) wasn&#8217;t worth a loss of income or greater restrictions on what could be posted on YouTube.  (It is also possible, that a google or YouTube employee who was sympathetic to Chinese nationalism and/or Anti-Tibetan autonomy/rights may have deleted the comments.)  I however, believe that it is the individuals, collectively, who can make a difference in the Tibetan cause, and, ironically, whose free speech YouTube claims to want to protect. </p>
<p>Is there anyway that you can assist me in getting an explanation from YouTube regarding this matter, and possibly even getting the comments re-posted?  If you can not directly assist me, can you offer advice or other people who may be able to assist me with this matter?</p>
<p>Thanks for your time.</p>
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		<title>By: jkd</title>
		<link>http://fstutzman.com/2008/07/03/youtubes-privacy-catastrophe/comment-page-1/#comment-1287</link>
		<dc:creator>jkd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d really be surprised if this remained a precedent for very long - the reasoning is so flimsy that I can&#039;t imagine it surviving appeal.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This of course &lt;i&gt;would&lt;/i&gt; be an absurd, obscene precedent were it to stand, but that really doesn&#039;t seem likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d really be surprised if this remained a precedent for very long &#8211; the reasoning is so flimsy that I can&#8217;t imagine it surviving appeal.</p>
<p>This of course <i>would</i> be an absurd, obscene precedent were it to stand, but that really doesn&#8217;t seem likely.</p>
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