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	<title>Comments on: NY Times Botches SNS Privacy</title>
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		<title>By: başka teknolojiler / başka dünyalar &#187; Blog Archive &#187; For whom the bell tolls?</title>
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		<dc:creator>başka teknolojiler / başka dünyalar &#187; Blog Archive &#187; For whom the bell tolls?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 03:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Numbers tell us different story about that social norm : http://fstutzman.com/2009/03/09/ny-times-botches-sns-privacy/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Numbers tell us different story about that social norm : <a href="http://fstutzman.com/2009/03/09/ny-times-botches-sns-privacy/" rel="nofollow">http://fstutzman.com/2009/03/09/ny-times-botches-sns-privacy/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook Promises Better Privacy &#124; The Productive Student</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook Promises Better Privacy &#124; The Productive Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 09:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I have thought a lot about my privacy on Social Sites. As well of Interest to us college students are this article and this one. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I have thought a lot about my privacy on Social Sites. As well of Interest to us college students are this article and this one. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
		<link>http://fstutzman.com/2009/03/09/ny-times-botches-sns-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-10899</link>
		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the main issue is exercised control.  Even if the network is large, the individual has exercised disclosure control - which is a substantially different case from those who have not exercised control at all.  

The fact that networks are large makes me think that the individuals may be simply trying to replicate the privacy situation before Facebook opened up.  People are very comfortable with this level of access, and more importantly, control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the main issue is exercised control.  Even if the network is large, the individual has exercised disclosure control &#8211; which is a substantially different case from those who have not exercised control at all.  </p>
<p>The fact that networks are large makes me think that the individuals may be simply trying to replicate the privacy situation before Facebook opened up.  People are very comfortable with this level of access, and more importantly, control.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Prentiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Prentiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really excited adult / youth norms of privacy will be your summer work.  I look forward to it.

I agree Stross got some things wrong, but I think it&#039;s a consequence of the binary option. I&#039;ve also struggled immensely with binary options of public/private when the real answer is contexts. Context thinking is slippery. 

danah boyd says the youth attitude is reflective of a world which is  &quot;public by default, private when necessary.&quot;  

http://epeus.blogspot.com/2008_04_01_archive.html

What I see - anecdotal evidence for sure - are many students (I&#039;d guess 5%) with 1000 friends. I know average across facebook is now 120, but I think this number skews much higher among college students. (I&#039;m not surveying the library for a study of this, it&#039;s not my main point.)

I&#039;m just  not sure that 1000 people in your school is not substantially more public than private.  Just because the profile has been limited to friends doesn&#039;t mean much if you define friends as a group of 1000, or 500, of your peers.   That&#039;s as big of a world as most 16-19 year olds think about any way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really excited adult / youth norms of privacy will be your summer work.  I look forward to it.</p>
<p>I agree Stross got some things wrong, but I think it&#8217;s a consequence of the binary option. I&#8217;ve also struggled immensely with binary options of public/private when the real answer is contexts. Context thinking is slippery. </p>
<p>danah boyd says the youth attitude is reflective of a world which is  &#8220;public by default, private when necessary.&#8221;  </p>
<p><a href="http://epeus.blogspot.com/2008_04_01_archive.html" rel="nofollow">http://epeus.blogspot.com/2008_04_01_archive.html</a></p>
<p>What I see &#8211; anecdotal evidence for sure &#8211; are many students (I&#8217;d guess 5%) with 1000 friends. I know average across facebook is now 120, but I think this number skews much higher among college students. (I&#8217;m not surveying the library for a study of this, it&#8217;s not my main point.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just  not sure that 1000 people in your school is not substantially more public than private.  Just because the profile has been limited to friends doesn&#8217;t mean much if you define friends as a group of 1000, or 500, of your peers.   That&#8217;s as big of a world as most 16-19 year olds think about any way.</p>
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		<title>By: michaelzimmer.org &#187; Yes, Privacy Does Still Exist in a Facebook World</title>
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		<dc:creator>michaelzimmer.org &#187; Yes, Privacy Does Still Exist in a Facebook World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Please read Fred Stutzman&#8217;s excellent (as expected) analysis of Stross&#8217;s article here, including a criticism of much of Stross&#8217;s statistics and assumptions (I was too upset to [...]</description>
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